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OSCAR CALLS NETCARE AT 3:20AM
DR STIPP – DIRECT TESTIMONY:
Dr. Stipp went back outside (after examining Reeva) and asked Stander if the ambulance was on their way. Stander said no, he hadn’t called them yet so Stipp called the Wilgers Hospital emergency department and asked them to send an ambulance. They told him he had to call an emergency number directly, not them. So Stander then dialed Netcare and handed his phone to Stipp who spoke to the dispatcher. Stipp described the nature of Reeva’s injuries to them.
JOHAN STANDER – DIRECT TESTIMONY:
Stander states that while he was outside, shortly after arriving at OP’s, Dr. Stipp arrived. He introduced himself as Johan and stated that he was a medical doctor. Stander says that he asked Stipp to go inside and see if he could assist. He also asked Stipp for the number to an ambulance because he couldn’t get a hold of them. Stipp gave him the number 082911. Stander then phoned 082911 and managed to get through.
While he was speaking on the phone (he indicates for several minutes), Stipp came back out. Stander states he said to Stipp he was having a hard time explaining to the dispatcher how to get to the house, so he handed the phone to Stipp who then spoke with the dispatcher.
[NOTE: On cross examination, Nel wants to know what they (Stander & Stipp) discussed. Did they discuss the injuries? Stander says no, Stipp just told him that she had a fatal head wound but he did not discuss any of the other injuries with him. Nel asks him if Oscar or anybody else told him how many wounds she sustained. Stander says no. Nel then asks, “not even your daughter?” Stander pauses, then answers, “I can’t recall.” But wasn’t Stander with Stipp when Stipp detailed Reeva’s injuries for the ambulance dispatcher?
CARICE STANDER – DIRECT TESTIMONY:
Oscar said “just take my car, put her in the car.” Carice said no, just put her down. So he placed Reeva on the ground. At that moment, Carice’s Dad stepped outside to call the ambulance. This was within moments of them arriving.
A few minutes later, Carice told Oscar that a doctor had arrived. She claims they were both relieved. Stipp walked in and Carice went back outside with her Dad who was still calling the ambulance. So at this point, just Stipp and Oscar were inside with Reeva, and Carice and Johan are outside on the phone. Carice testifies that when she was outside with her Dad, she also spoke with the dispatcher. Why? How long does it take, and how many people does it take, to request an ambulance?
After examining Reeva, Stipp went back outside and Carice went back inside. They passed each other at the doorway. Carice said Stipp wasn’t in there very long. Upon coming out, he stated, “it’s very bad.”
BABA – DIRECT TESTIMONY:
Oscar came down the stairs carrying Reeva in his arms. Baba was very shocked by what he was seeing that he couldn’t think for a few moments. How could everything be “fine” when Oscar was carrying a bleeding woman down the stairs? When Johan Stander said “OSCAR”, Baba snapped out of his shock.
At this point, Stander told Baba to go call police and the ambulance. He also gave the guards instructions to make sure that no cars were parked at Oscar’s house. Baba then left to go make the phone calls. He also called the control room office and informed the manager of what was happening. Baba never went in the house that night. He does confirm though that the lights were on inside the house.
AMBULANCE AND PARAMEDICS ARRIVE AT 3:42AM